A conversation with Orhun Parmaksız about Ratatui, OpenAI adopting Ratatui, AI assisted coding, fonts and themes, making money in open source, and more!

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Ratatui: https://ratatui.rs/

His favorite Ratatui projects:
https://github.com/Chleba/netscanner
https://github.com/pythops/impala
https://github.com/unhappychoice/gitlogue
https://github.com/dividebysandwich/rusty-pipes

Stuff I use to make videos:
Keyboard: Glove80 - https://bit.ly/3EKyn7X
Camera 1: Canon EOS R8 https://amzn.to/4gSpivt
Camera 2: Canon EOS R5 https://amzn.to/3CCrxzl
Monitor: Dell U4914DW 49in https://amzn.to/3MJV1jx
Microphone: Sennheiser 416 https://amzn.to/3Fkti60
Microphone Interface: Focusrite Clarett+ 2Pre https://amzn.to/3J5dy7S
Tripod: JOBY GorillaPod 5K https://amzn.to/3JaPxMA
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder https://amzn.to/3J9fYCf
Computer: Mac Studio M4 Max https://amzn.to/44RWIWK
Lens: Canon RF35mm F1.8 https://amzn.to/49XHWkT
Caffeine: High Brew Cold Brew Coffee https://amzn.to/3hXyx0q
More Caffeine: Monster Energy Juice, Pipeline Punch https://amzn.to/3Czmfox
Building A Second Brain book: https://amzn.to/3cIShWf

Code to the Moon

Orhoon, creator of Ratatouille (a Rust TUI framework with 17,000 GitHub stars), discusses the library's evolution from the unmaintained TUI-rs fork, its immediate-mode rendering approach, and ecosystem adoption including by OpenAI's Codex. He shares insights on maintaining multiple open-source projects, the challenges of AI-assisted coding diminishing programming joy, his hardware project Twetar (a guitar learning device), and the philosophy behind keeping Ratatouille beginner-friendly through architectural simplicity rather than reactive patterns.

OpenAI went ALL IN on this Rust framework

<p>cringe interview from both sides, dude looks offscreen for chat gpt questions to ask… just pass this</p>


<p>The interview went really well; Orhun, my racial mate, performed admirably.</p>
