Kyverno, the most popular open source policy engine for Kubernetes, recently graduated from the CNCF after five years — making it only the 35th project to reach that milestone. CEO Jim Bugwadia discusses the project's evolution, including a migration from custom YAML to Common Expression Language (CEL), surpassing 3 billion downloads, and growing adoption driven by AI workloads. He explains the business model tension between open source and commercial offerings: Kyverno excels at detecting problems, while Nirmata Enterprise focuses on remediation and fixing them, converting 2–5% of open source users to paid customers.
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