When asked whether he was still "salty" about about being shown the door at Uber, alongside co-founder Travis Kalanick, Michael didn't equivocate. "I'll never forget that, nor forgive," he said.

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Emil Michael, a senior Pentagon technology official and former Uber SVP, expressed in a podcast interview that he will never forgive the investors who ousted him and Travis Kalanick from Uber, arguing they prioritized short-term returns over building an autonomous driving future. The interview also covers Michael's perspective on the DoD's ongoing dispute with Anthropic, where he argues Anthropic's usage restrictions would leave the military at a disadvantage against adversaries using unrestricted versions of the same AI models. The conflict has since escalated to federal court, with the DoD filing a 40-page brief calling Anthropic an unacceptable supply-chain risk, and Anthropic countering that the government's claims rest on technical misunderstandings.

Emil Michael, now a senior Pentagon official, says he’ll never forgive Uber investors who ousted him and Kalanick

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